Leibrock, Paltrock, Wappenrock
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I've been doing more research (so what else is new?) and have been looking at what are commonly known in re-enactment circles as waffenrocks (armour rock) or wappenrocks (heraldic rock). Other period names for them are leibrock (body rock)or paltrock (pleated rock).
I want to make one for Henry to wear for our next event in a few weeks. Small boys are commonly seen wearing them and I thought he'd look good in one. Boys typically wear the ones with square necks, which is also a grown man's style too, but men have other style options as well.
One key issue I have with most modern recreations of waffenrock, or paltrock, is how they fasten. Most of the ones I've seen have laced on the side seam. Being one of those annoying people who always want to know if that's how things really were done, I had to go look through the artwork and see if I could see how ones in period sources fastened. So far I have found no evidence of a side fastening paltrock, but plenty of evidence for them fastening on one shoulder using a variety of methods, either buttons, ties or hooks and eyes.
I've put it behind a cut to save you from having to scroll forever
Wendelin-Legende
Dieses Bild: 000209
Kunstwerk: Temperamalerei-Holz ; Tafelbild ; Donauschule
Dokumentation: 1510 ; 1520 ; Kremsmünster ; Österreich ; Oberösterreich ;
** Brown and green waffenrock, this one is over armour. Notice the wrap front styling. **
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7000103.JPG
Johann Geumann, zweiter Großmeister des St. Georg-Ritterorden, und seine Familie verehren Maria
Dieses Bild: 001315
Kunstwerk: Temperamalerei-Holz ; Tafelbild ; Kärnten
Dokumentation: 1510 ; 1520 ; Klagenfurt ; Österreich ; Kärnten ; Landesmuseum ; IN 85
Anmerkungen: 245x283,5 ; Millstatt
** Red and white, nice crusader colors. Worn over armour as well, but no visible fastening **
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7002057.JPG
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7002060.JPG
Heilung eines epileptischen Kindes
Dieses Bild: 000479
Dokumentation: 1518 ; 1522 ; Graz ; Österreich ; Steiermark ; Landesmuseum Joanneum
** Boy wearing a green rock, square necked**
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7000337.JPG
BEHAM, Barthel, Portrait of a Man 1529
Oil on panel, 85 x 66 cm
Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna
** Dark grey faltrock, nice detail on the picadils and slashing at neck. I love, love love this portrait! **
http://www.wga.hu/html/b/beham/barthel/portrait.html
HOLBEIN, Ambrosius, Portrait of a Young Man 1518
Oil on wood, 43 x 32 cm
The Hermitage, St. Petersburg
** Lower neck style, point for a tie at the left shoulder seen**
http://www.wga.hu/html/h/holbein/ambrosiu/portrait.html
STRIGEL, Bernhard, Portrait of Conrad Rehlinger and his Children 1517
Wood, 209 x 101 cm and 209 x 98 cm
Alte Pinakothek, Munich
** Boys wearing paltrocken**
http://www.wga.hu/art/s/strigel/bernhard/rehlinge.jpg
Augsburg Monatsbilder
**Two Hunters, button on left shoulder to fasten it **
http://www.dhm.de/ausstellungen/kurzweil/apr5.htm
**Back of Red Faltrock, showing deep sleeves attached to the angular back.**
http://www.dhm.de/ausstellungen/kurzweil/juli5.htm
**Young boy carrying pigs head, wearing blue/green faltrock**
http://www.dhm.de/ausstellungen/kurzweil/okt9.htm
Barthel Beham, (Attributed to) Portrait of a Nobleman (1530 - 1540 )
** Red velvet faltrock, nice from view with slashing **
http://www.gallery.ca/en/see/collections/artwork.php?mkey=14365 [link rot fixed 10/14/11]
Donau, Bildnis des Michel Adlers, 1529, Bild, Nürnberg, Germanisches Nationalmuseum, Gm 1345
** Square necked rock, visible fastening, looks to be hook and eye on left shoulder**
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/mi07768f08b.jpg
Heusler, Antonius, Bildnis des Nicolaus Seidel, 1525, Bild, Nürnberg, Germanisches Nationalmuseum
** Visible points on both shoulders **
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/mi07753b09b.jpg
Schön, Erhard, Frau am Fenster, 1541, Bild, Nürnberg, Germanisches Nationalmuseum, Gm 1604
**Boy wearing a rock, no visible closure seen **
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/mi07761d14b.jpg
**Matthais Schwartz in a Paltrock, slashed neck, closes on one shoulder. **
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/MI05036a12a.jpg
[Link rot fixed 10/14/11]
I want to make one for Henry to wear for our next event in a few weeks. Small boys are commonly seen wearing them and I thought he'd look good in one. Boys typically wear the ones with square necks, which is also a grown man's style too, but men have other style options as well.
One key issue I have with most modern recreations of waffenrock, or paltrock, is how they fasten. Most of the ones I've seen have laced on the side seam. Being one of those annoying people who always want to know if that's how things really were done, I had to go look through the artwork and see if I could see how ones in period sources fastened. So far I have found no evidence of a side fastening paltrock, but plenty of evidence for them fastening on one shoulder using a variety of methods, either buttons, ties or hooks and eyes.
I've put it behind a cut to save you from having to scroll forever
Wendelin-Legende
Dieses Bild: 000209
Kunstwerk: Temperamalerei-Holz ; Tafelbild ; Donauschule
Dokumentation: 1510 ; 1520 ; Kremsmünster ; Österreich ; Oberösterreich ;
** Brown and green waffenrock, this one is over armour. Notice the wrap front styling. **
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7000103.JPG
Johann Geumann, zweiter Großmeister des St. Georg-Ritterorden, und seine Familie verehren Maria
Dieses Bild: 001315
Kunstwerk: Temperamalerei-Holz ; Tafelbild ; Kärnten
Dokumentation: 1510 ; 1520 ; Klagenfurt ; Österreich ; Kärnten ; Landesmuseum ; IN 85
Anmerkungen: 245x283,5 ; Millstatt
** Red and white, nice crusader colors. Worn over armour as well, but no visible fastening **
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7002057.JPG
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7002060.JPG
Heilung eines epileptischen Kindes
Dieses Bild: 000479
Dokumentation: 1518 ; 1522 ; Graz ; Österreich ; Steiermark ; Landesmuseum Joanneum
** Boy wearing a green rock, square necked**
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7000337.JPG
BEHAM, Barthel, Portrait of a Man 1529
Oil on panel, 85 x 66 cm
Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna
** Dark grey faltrock, nice detail on the picadils and slashing at neck. I love, love love this portrait! **
http://www.wga.hu/html/b/beham/barthel/portrait.html
HOLBEIN, Ambrosius, Portrait of a Young Man 1518
Oil on wood, 43 x 32 cm
The Hermitage, St. Petersburg
** Lower neck style, point for a tie at the left shoulder seen**
http://www.wga.hu/html/h/holbein/ambrosiu/portrait.html
STRIGEL, Bernhard, Portrait of Conrad Rehlinger and his Children 1517
Wood, 209 x 101 cm and 209 x 98 cm
Alte Pinakothek, Munich
** Boys wearing paltrocken**
http://www.wga.hu/art/s/strigel/bernhard/rehlinge.jpg
Augsburg Monatsbilder
**Two Hunters, button on left shoulder to fasten it **
http://www.dhm.de/ausstellungen/kurzweil/apr5.htm
**Back of Red Faltrock, showing deep sleeves attached to the angular back.**
http://www.dhm.de/ausstellungen/kurzweil/juli5.htm
**Young boy carrying pigs head, wearing blue/green faltrock**
http://www.dhm.de/ausstellungen/kurzweil/okt9.htm
Barthel Beham, (Attributed to) Portrait of a Nobleman (1530 - 1540 )
** Red velvet faltrock, nice from view with slashing **
http://www.gallery.ca/en/see/collections/artwork.php?mkey=14365 [link rot fixed 10/14/11]
Donau, Bildnis des Michel Adlers, 1529, Bild, Nürnberg, Germanisches Nationalmuseum, Gm 1345
** Square necked rock, visible fastening, looks to be hook and eye on left shoulder**
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/mi07768f08b.jpg
Heusler, Antonius, Bildnis des Nicolaus Seidel, 1525, Bild, Nürnberg, Germanisches Nationalmuseum
** Visible points on both shoulders **
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/mi07753b09b.jpg
Schön, Erhard, Frau am Fenster, 1541, Bild, Nürnberg, Germanisches Nationalmuseum, Gm 1604
**Boy wearing a rock, no visible closure seen **
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/mi07761d14b.jpg
**Matthais Schwartz in a Paltrock, slashed neck, closes on one shoulder. **
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/MI05036a12a.jpg
[Link rot fixed 10/14/11]