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In honor of the balls that were held this last weekend, and the ones that will be held this next weekend, here's a collection of dancers and musicians.

Dancing Pairs in the dance hall of Augsburg, 1490-1510
Geschlechtertanz im Tanzhaus von Augsburg
Dieses Bild: 015534
Kunstwerk: Malerei-Holz ; Tafelbild ; Augsburg
Dokumentation: 1490 ; 1510 ; Augsburg ; Deutschland ; Schwaben ; Maximiliansmuseum ; 3821
Full: http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7016682.JPG
Detail:http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7016683.JPG
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7016684.JPG
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7016685.JPG

 

The same hall in the 1590's
Geschlechtertanz im Tanzhaus von Augsburg
Dieses Bild: 015533
Kunstwerk: Malerei-Holz ; Tafelbild ; Schelhas Abraham
Dokumentation: 1590 ; 1595 ; Augsburg ; Deutschland ; Schwaben ; Maximiliansmuseum ; 3822
Full:http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7016677.JPG
Detail: http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7016678.JPG
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7016679.JPG
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7016680.JPG
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7016681.JPG



Commemerative Wedding Bowl of the Paller-Imhoff family with tournament representation and wedding procession around the outside. 1572

Hochzeitsschüssel der Paller-Imhoff mit Turnierdarstellung und Hochzeitsreigen
Dieses Bild: 015499
Kunstwerk: Malerei-Holz ; Gefäße Haushalt ; Schüssel ; Augsburg
Dokumentation: 1572 ; 1572 ; Augsburg ; Deutschland ; Schwaben ; Maximiliansmuseum ; 10349
Anmerkungen: Dm 58 ; "Kurzweil viel ohn' Maß und Ziel", Augsbuger Patrizier zwischen Mittelalter und früher Neuzeit (Ausst.Kat.), Augsburg 1994.
Full:http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7016630.JPG
Center Tournament Scene: http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7016631.JPG
Detail of rim:
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7016632.JPG
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7016633.JPG
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7016634.JPG
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7016635.JPG
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7016636.JPG
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7016637.JPG
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7016638.JPG
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7016639.JPG


 The hare pipes the dance for the foxes
Fuchs;Hase
Hase spielt Füchsen zum Tanz auf
Dieses Bild: 005376
Kunstwerk: Buchmalerei ; Illustrationszyklus Bibel ; Miniatur ; Böhmen
Dokumentation: 1432 ; 1435 ; Wien ; Österreich ; Wien ; Österreichische Nationalbibliothek ; cod. 1175 ; fol. 398v
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7007173.JPG

 A couple at the dance
Tanz
Dieses Bild: 006764
Kunstwerk: Federzeichnung koloriert ; Illustrationszyklus Didaktik ; Miniatur ; Konstanz
Dokumentation: 1479 ; 1479 ; Wien ; Österreich ; Wien ; Österreichische Nationalbibliothek ; cod. 3049 ; fol. 166v
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7008595.JPG



Fiddler and dancer, 1300-1350 (I love the energy in this one)
Fidler und Tänzerin
Dieses Bild: 007526
Kunstwerk: Buchmalerei ; Illustrationszyklus Recht ; Randillustration ; Italien(?)
Dokumentation: 1300 ; 1350 ; Graz ; Österreich ; Steiermark ; Universitätsbibliothek ; cod. 32 ; fol. 106v
Anmerkungen: Seckau Chorherrenstift
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7009364.JPG

Dance Festival
Tanzfest;Kurfürsten
Dieses Bild: 014528
Kunstwerk: Wandmalerei profan
Dokumentation: 1480 ; 1500 ; Zvikov ; Tschechien ; Burg
Anmerkungen: 600x500 ; Tanzsaal ; O-Wand
Full:http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7015628.JPG
Detail: http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7015629.JPG
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7015630.JPG
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7015631.JPG



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Date: 2007-01-08 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
The second one is apparently a parade of couples in costume from different ages. I'm a little surprised to see that kind of knowledge of 200-300 year old fashions in a 16th century painting. Are you sure it was made in the 16th century?

And what does the quote on the first one say, it seems to be something about "people dressed like they were in Augsburg", which also indicates at least a little distance in time or space. But I couldn't make out the whole text, my german is getting really bad.

/Eva

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Date: 2007-01-08 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmcnealy.livejournal.com
Regards the first picture, I'll have to have Katherine Barich take a look at the text, what's captured in the database record doesn't make sense and they are missing a few letters in some words too.

On the second one.... There seems to be a mix of current styles for the 1590's and older styles from Italy and that area of Germany. Dancing clothes were quite regulated for the women, they had to wear certain headdresses and some styles of dresss. In some cases it could be a way of showing ones heritage or family line. Alot of the couples are wearing matching outfits, so I wonder if it was a dance after a tournament.

The record says that it was made in the 16th century, and I think the range of styles is only about 100 years or so.

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Date: 2007-01-08 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ornerie.livejournal.com
squee!!!

the second one seems like folks in "old tyme" clothing. the painting style suggests that it is indeed 16th. c., while the first one seems 16th c. all 'round...interesting!

also, the one 15th c. manuscript illo is the first one I've seen that shoes the back of the german girl hair! woot!!!!

hey, for my 16th c....what about the girl in pink in the first row of the first painting? she's dancing with a guy in a stripey cloak?

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Date: 2007-01-08 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmcnealy.livejournal.com
I'll have to hunt up the entry which shows lots of back of head shots with the gefrens (fringe), and I found a whole lot of other ones recently too. Hmm.... sounds like a new page for the website.

Yes, that's a very nice style and I think it would look great on you. I'll hunt up some better pictures which show the style better so you can get a better look at it.

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Date: 2007-01-08 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ornerie.livejournal.com
I like it lots...it says "low countries" without being saxon :) (not that there's anythign wrong with cranach saxons, but they're soooo been there done that ;))

anything you can dig up on the german hairstyle/fringe thing, I'm all ears! I'm very intrigued by the idea of a non italian hairstyle/dressing option for 15th century and the fat braids/fringe thing is cute as anything :)

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Date: 2007-01-08 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ornerie.livejournal.com
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7015629.JPG

gal in green is similar, no? I love the transition between teh burgundian V-necked gown and the slashed sleeves :)

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Date: 2007-01-09 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmcnealy.livejournal.com
Yup, this is a similar style to the lady in pink. Southern German fashion borrowed alot from the Burgundian look during this period due to Maximillian being married to Mary of Burgundy. They also brought in some Italian styling and mixed it up with a lot of local flair.

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Date: 2007-01-09 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmcnealy.livejournal.com
There's this one from June
http://mmcnealy.livejournal.com/252521.html

And I'll work on finding the others. I just got CD Rom version of the complete works of Durer, and its got loads of cool pictures!

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Date: 2007-01-08 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joysdaughter.livejournal.com
I swear the guy in the middle is using a back scratcher! Lovely pictures Marion - thanks for sharing.

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Date: 2007-01-08 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmcnealy.livejournal.com
LOL, it DOES look like a back scratcher! I can't tell if it actually is one or one of those sticks with a stuffed ornament and bells on the edges. He's dressed in the Jester/Fools colors, so he could be one of the entertainers.

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Date: 2007-01-09 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joysdaughter.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure that, as you suggest, it's one of those sticks with a bell and ornament, but it was just so funny the angle it's at!!

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Date: 2007-01-08 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorinda2212.livejournal.com
Lovely post, thank you dahling! I haven't made it all the way through the pics, but was so excited I had to say something!

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Date: 2007-01-08 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmcnealy.livejournal.com
You're welcome, always glad to be able to share the great pics. :D

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Date: 2007-01-08 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aliskye.livejournal.com
Where do you find such marvelous pictures!? :)

I'm fascinated by the way the couples dancing are holding hands. Most of them seem to have the man's hand over the ladies, which seems to be contrary to what I've been taught and have been teaching.

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Date: 2007-01-08 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmcnealy.livejournal.com
I find them in various places, but REALonline is one of my favorite online sources since it is so well indexed. You do need to be able to read German, or have a German to English dictionary handy for reference.

My experience with period dancing styles is very limited, so I'm glad these are proving useful. :D

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Date: 2007-01-09 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladybrid.livejournal.com
hi! I'm in Darkwood, and am afraid i lurk regularly on your journal for yor beautiful research. those first 2 sets of dance hall images are driving me nuts! all the details and I can't make anything out well enough!

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Date: 2007-01-09 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmcnealy.livejournal.com
Hi! Lurk away as much as you like. :D Did we meet while I was out there?

Which style of dress are you looking at? There are lots of other examples of these dresses elsewhere, these are pretty common styles for the time.

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Date: 2007-01-09 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladybrid.livejournal.com
We've met a couple of times in passing. But nothing to be remembered I'm sure!

I'm greedy, I wanna see the whole dang thing. It's the comparisons and the variety that light me up. I love the "mushroom" head wear, and am collecting images of chemises with fringe or other dangly or applied decorations, and any dresses that don't fit the usual "German" stereotypes.

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